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China invaded Vietnam because Vietnam invaded their friend Cambodia first. China tried to mediate peace talks - but they failed. So, in the end, they invaded Vietnam (which had already invaded Cambodia which they saw as being too pro-China; this being the time of the beginning of the market reforms in China). Pol Pot was an opportunist and noob, so he gets no sympathy from me. But if your friend was being bullied, wouldn't you want to protect them? Are you seriously suggesting you wouldn't protect a friend who was being beaten up?

Neither the United States or China has ever really adhered to the Geneva Convention. And if we're to bring up centuries worth of misdeeds then we can talk about the American Indians, the Philippines and Banana Wars, etc. What I'm saying is the United States has killed more people than China - especially if we limit ourselves to the post Cold War period.

There is a long list of countries that have done nothing to deserve being interfered with by the United States - far longer than any list of Chinese interference. Call me a Chinese apologist if you want - I will proudly endorse that title - but the United States is a country of never ending war. Obama has been ordering so many bombs to be dropped the military has been running out of bombs in recent months. You have to admit the Oval Office think lives of the people of the third world are worth less than those of Americans.

Are we counting the Great Leap Forward here?  I mean let's not forget Mao Zedong Mr. Chinese Apologist.

To possibly claim the US killed more people then China is the whole of history, you'd have to do some real magic with numbers. For example bringing up the Native Americans who were largely killed by small pox before the US was even a country. I see that commonly attributed to America. Also people will attribute all the deaths in Iraq or Vietnam to America, even when most of both examples were the Iraqis and Vietnamese killing each other. Meanwhile China has existed for thousands of years in one form or another. During those times they've committed and been the victim of numerous genocides that vastly outnumber anything America has done. Like Divity said, you must be totally ignoring the great leap forward. Not only that but also the early 20th century genocide of Mongol people, the massive genocides in the 12th century, the estimated 2 million slave laborers who died in contruction projects in the early 1st century. It takes real mental gymnastics to claim America has killed more.