RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god
May 27, 2016 at 5:52 am
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2016 at 5:54 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(May 27, 2016 at 5:27 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: Omni-present - to be present is to be in a moment - past, present, future. So i'm talking about time.
Omni-everywhere - where implies space. So omni time and space if you want the short answer.
Omni-being - all states of being, from being a rock, a grain of sand, an atom, to a flower, human, planet, galaxy, universe etc etc. These are all states if being as any one is.
OK, fine. But tell me - is bullsh*t a state of being? Is "made-up", or fictional a state of being? Because if so - god is all those things. The thing is - we actually have proof, that god can be an imaginary being - but no proof of god in ANY OTHER STATE.
Also, if god is everything - is he/she/it also things you hate? And if so - does that mean you hate god?
What about Satan? Is a fallen angel a state of being? Seems like it is - so god must be Satan...
Word-games are fun.
(May 27, 2016 at 5:27 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: "So how exactly am I "actually believing in god"?" by having any belief at all.
LOL... That's only because you defined god as "everything", with no evidence. You just made it up (or someone made it up for you) - and I'm supposed to justify my belief in anything, in relation to that? Guess what - we already have a term for "everything". And it's NOT "god".
(May 27, 2016 at 5:27 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: For even if you don't believe in the universe, it's still there isnt it.
Sure, but even if you believe in god - there's still no actual evidence, that there is one out there.
(May 27, 2016 at 5:27 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: Again, the point of this argument is indeed whether the universe is god.
Well - it isn't, so...
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(May 27, 2016 at 5:27 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: What has been proven is actually that this universe is a simulation.
LOL... No, it hasn't been proven. Where did you even get that idea. Are you making this up as you go along?
(May 27, 2016 at 5:27 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: Evolution has been formulated into an equation, programs have been run, and it turns out the material world isnt real. But even quantum physicists have known for a hundred years the materiel universe doesn't actually exist. So if we're going to debate the universe, the material universe is obsolete in any discussion of science or philosophy.
Yeah - that's all unsubstantiated assertions/word salad. None of that even rings true and of course - you provide no evidence. So I'll just happily dismiss it, until you do...
(May 27, 2016 at 5:27 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: But i do believe in fairies, fairies are just beings living in other dimensions that you can witness with drugs or an already accepting mind
In other words - they're bullsh*t. Just like god. And I'm not even going to ask you about evidence for those "other dimensions", because it's clear you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You see - atheists usually are not easily impressed with meaningless drivel. Most of us like hard facts - not word-games and vague notions.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
