RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god
May 27, 2016 at 6:04 am
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2016 at 6:15 am by Blueyedlion.)
(May 27, 2016 at 4:51 am)LastPoet Wrote:(May 27, 2016 at 4:41 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: In no way is this a bible handed projection to any of you, religion appeals to me as much as it did while an atheist.
I simply heard this from a friend. This is purely an idea I'd like to explore with you all, with no claims of knowing better. Only that i have some grounding, some grasp of this topic enough to ideally get some of you to consider this as not just something one would dismiss because it doesn't fit in with an already made opinion.
The thing is, every believer has a different idea of what a god is. I didn't chose to disbelief, I arrived at it after considering the main claims from major religions.
The concept of gods exist, but its kept ill-defined just so that can't be falsified. Then come apologists with hhalf arsed psudophilosophical arguments as if that way they could pop a god into existence.
Human imagination is a good tool, but also a curse.
Hold on, what if i told you no matter how and what you define as god, it doesn't mater, because you're right no matter the way you think god exists. So trying to create some unified theory with definitions doesnt lead anywhere. I shall explain why.
First off. Logically, god creates universe. Universe is apart of god. Therefore we are apart of god.
next, if we all are apart of god then we are in ourselves god.
God is not some higher being above us, our very existence is what makes up and is what god is an all aspects and qualities.
For example, you dont need all the wood in the world to then figure out there is such a thing called wood. Whether made as desk or raw as a tree, wood is wood whether in parts splinted or in large masses like trunks. Either way wood is never more wood then any other wood, it's all the same stuff in different states. And if you dont like this analogy, try this -
Of the earths oceanic body of water, no drop of water is better then another, is above another in any way. Water may exist in different forms as steam, ice or liquid, but it's still the same thing existing in different states. You don't call water, water as a label only when you have the entire encompassing ocean, that then, only when all the drops in the world are accounted for, do we call water as water, one drop is still water as is a lake or ocean.
Now apply that to god as streams of energy flowing consciously throughout the universe as all that is. Then what you've got is no person, or grain of sand or atom is better then the rest. As well as there's no need to try and define the qualities of god to such an extent, because describing yourself is in itself, describing god, just like describing a drop of water from the tap as water, or a piece of plank as wood, you don't need to have it all to know those small pieces are the same thing.
A drop of water is water, on ocean is water.
A person is god, the connections and collectiveness of the universe is god,
think about it.