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Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god

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RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god

May 28, 2016 at 1:59 am (This post was last modified: May 28, 2016 at 2:01 am by Blueyedlion.)

Quote:ignoramusReincarnation? Ha, I knew it!
It's always about eternal life....

Nobody would waste their time believing such nonsense if there wasn't something in it for them....
It's just the selfish ape gene fighting for immortality again...

OP, let me ask you? Why bother telling us any of this?

"selfish ape gene fighting for immortality again" Thats an extremely understandable position to take and one i used to side with as well. You're coming from a mindset that a reality based on the evidence of reincarnation is one that can only comes from the fear of ones own annihilation. That makes perfect sense. However, what if i told you, quantum physics destroys materialism completely.

In case you're not familiar with idealism, idealism as a philosophical theory that matter is really an appearance of mind - mind being something conscious. Now we know electrons don't exist until we perceive them. That's science. The conscious action of observation actually creates reality on the sub atomic scale. What's there when you're not looking is probability waves. Probability isnt actuality, it's just probability - possibility of perception. So you can expand on this that sub atomic particles only exist when they're being looked at, otherwise they dont exist at all. So we know for a fact through science that matter is a product of our consciousness.

John Wheeler (noble prize winning physicist) "No phenomenon is a physical phenomenon until it is an observed phenomenon."
Eugene Wigner (noble prize winning physicist) "Study of the external world leads to the conclusion that contents of consciousness is the ultimate reality."

http://www.gizmag.com/quantum-theory-reality-anu/37866
http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v11/...s3343.html

So quantum physics shows that the universe is probabilistic not deterministic, you have freewill to make choices, nothing determines your choice but you. So you are responsible for your actions entirely. The universe is based on conscious decision

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Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god - by Blueyedlion - May 27, 2016 at 3:43 am

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RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god - by Blueyedlion - May 27, 2016 at 4:11 am

RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god - by Pat Mustard - May 27, 2016 at 10:04 am

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RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god - by ignoramus - May 27, 2016 at 4:20 am

RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god - by Blueyedlion - May 27, 2016 at 4:41 am

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