(May 30, 2016 at 12:24 pm)Ignorant Wrote:(May 30, 2016 at 12:14 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I've always found this to be a thoroughly monstrous doctrine. Hypothetical:
Martuk is a member of a tribe (African jungle, South American rainforest, Australian bush - doesn't really matter) who have never heard of Jesus. Martuk has a wife and five children. He is a kind and gentle man, provides for his family, helps the rest of the tribe as much as he can. His wife is devoted to him, his children love him dearly, the other tribespeople all agree he is a 'good sort'. He is known to everyone as a charitable and wise man.
One day, Martuk is out gathering medicinal plants for the benefit of a sick friend, when his is bitten by an animal. By the time Martuk gets home, the bite has become infected. Within a few days, Martuk has a raging fever and he dies shortly thereafter, surrounded by family and friends, all weeping over their great loss.
Based on Christian dogma, Martuk never gets to Heaven. The absolutely best he can hope for is simmering torture and the eventual utter destruction of his soul. Such is the 'justice' meted out by a 'loving' God to a good and kind man, all because he never had the opportunity to believe in Jesus.
Fuck Christianity.
Boru
I'm not one for "proof texting", so I would invite you to read this, and then evaluate Martuk according to it:
"For when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature observe the prescriptions of the law, they are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. They show that the demands of the law are written in their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse OR EVEN DEFEND THEM on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge people's hidden works through Christ Jesus."
-Romans 2:14-16
I think there is hope for Martuk, but that is just me...
I agree. Only someone who doesn't know God and the scriptures would think that Martuk would suffer torture because he never had the opportunity to know of Christ.
