(May 31, 2016 at 12:45 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: What was Joffrey's motive, when he cut open a pregnant cat, to get the kittens out (in the book, anyway)?
What was Joffrey's motive for torturing prostitutes and killing at least one?
What was the motive for publicly torturing Sansa?
What was his motive for killing Ned Stark?
Psycho
Power trip + Psycho
Power trip + Psycho
Power trip + Psycho
Notice one thing about Joffrey pre-ascension: He was definitely a spoiled little sadistic psychopath, as you point out, but he was also a bit of a wimp who hadn't been entirely let loose to run with his power-tripping ego after he became king and no one could stop him. He was on a long leash, but he was still on a leash, and Robert was on the other end of it. I'm not saying I think Cersei or Jaime were behind the attack on Bran, I'm saying I don't buy that Joffrey was. His attention being turned to other people only happened after he became king and damned-near invincible.
Quote:Cersei at that point didn't have any particular reasons to want Tyrion eliminated, beyond those Joffrey had.
(May 31, 2016 at 8:54 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(May 31, 2016 at 5:46 pm)pocaracas Wrote: WUT?!
She's NEVER forgiven Tyrion for Killing her mother.
All her life, she's had a festering hate for the imp.
And yet - she hadn't done anything about it, that we know of, for 30+ years. What changed at that precise moment, in Winterfell?
(1) What Poca said.
(2) Cersei isn't entirely stupid. She's cunning in her own shortsighted way, but I would believe that she is entirely capable of bidding her time until the right moment to frame Tyrion for something he didn't do and get him executed *cough*poinsingJoffrey*cough* if she was, in fact, behind the attack on Bran. Also, 30+ years of stewing over her hatred until the moment comes where she can do something about it? Way more believable to me than Joffrey committing an act of "mercy" by having Bran killed.
Quote:But, hey - you don't have to take it from me. In the books both Tyrion and Jamie come to similar conclusions.
When? Where? I'm not saying you're not citing something true, I just don't remember this and am interested in looking it up.
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.