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Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god
RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god
(May 29, 2016 at 1:29 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(May 29, 2016 at 6:58 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: It's not supposed to be an objective fact, i never once said or implied it was, that was you assuming. There is no such thing as an objective fact, objectivity doesn't exist. All facts are based on purely subjective experiences. When i say, there is no right or wrong, you are then interpreting that is some universal truth. A truth has to be a positive claim. I'm simply showing what doesn't exist, revealing what's left. The concept that everything universally is subjective is still not an objective truth.

Because you still need to realize that every individual experience in trapped within the bounds of that experience, no one thing can talk for anyone else then them. For two people have to be experiencing the exact same thing that is the same experience of a fact, in order for it to be actually objective. You need an to have an exact copy of you with all your memories interpreting as you would, in the exact same way you already are, standing in place where you already are having the exact same experience - that is then an objective experience. The facts of both experience are now objective.

Since that's not happening anytime this week, the only truth is yours and yours alone. A collective subjective experience is just an agreement that many subjective experiences are very similar to each other.

That's not what objective means.  An objective fact is something that is true independent of individual attitudes.  Nothing about it being a conjunction of experiences.  You seem to like taking old words and giving them new, personal meaning.  Your truths truly are subjective in that they're only true for you.

Think about that, how can something be true outside an individual's attitude? Try right now to see something outside yourself? you cant so the definition is crap. The meaning im giving it is the meaning that is the core of its definition, but it has been distorted by people trying to establish control over others. For if someone can make you think truth is established by something outside of you, then they can create that truth and pretend it's objective and make you believe their truth. But they're are the one's who have made it so for their own sake, for their own authority of power.
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RE: Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god - by Blueyedlion - June 2, 2016 at 1:23 am

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