Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity

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Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity

June 13, 2016 at 3:43 pm

(June 11, 2016 at 9:48 am)Rhondazvous Wrote:
”Romans 9:5” Wrote:But nay, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, “Why hast thou made me thus?”

Who am i? I am a human, a sentient being. I have thoughts and feelings. I have opinions and awareness. I can recognize injustice and oppression.

Does it make sense to believe that god created me with all these wonderful faculties and then turned around expecting me to act like a lifeless piece of clay (as some versions render this verse)?

No, it does not make sense to believe that. So, these versions that you refer to but for some reason don't name or quote are suspect.

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Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 11, 2016 at 9:48 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by ignoramus - June 11, 2016 at 9:51 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Chad32 - June 11, 2016 at 10:48 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 11, 2016 at 2:54 pm

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Lek - June 11, 2016 at 11:38 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 11, 2016 at 12:59 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Lek - June 11, 2016 at 2:34 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Ben Davis - June 11, 2016 at 2:56 pm

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by ApeNotKillApe - June 11, 2016 at 3:14 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 11, 2016 at 4:38 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by ApeNotKillApe - June 11, 2016 at 3:31 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Esquilax - June 11, 2016 at 3:48 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Paraselene - June 20, 2016 at 1:43 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Cyberman - June 11, 2016 at 3:56 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by AFTT47 - June 12, 2016 at 12:01 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 12, 2016 at 12:21 pm

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 13, 2016 at 9:53 am

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 13, 2016 at 2:59 pm

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Paraselene - June 20, 2016 at 1:45 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 20, 2016 at 12:42 pm

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by John V - June 13, 2016 at 3:43 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 13, 2016 at 9:02 pm

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 14, 2016 at 11:02 am

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 14, 2016 at 5:56 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Pat Mustard - June 14, 2016 at 7:56 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 18, 2016 at 7:07 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Pat Mustard - June 19, 2016 at 5:26 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 19, 2016 at 6:57 pm

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by John V - June 14, 2016 at 6:22 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 14, 2016 at 10:35 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by John V - June 14, 2016 at 10:43 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Rhondazvous - June 14, 2016 at 11:14 am

RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by John V - June 14, 2016 at 11:20 am

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity - by Drich - June 13, 2016 at 4:20 pm

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