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Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
Great topic Drich and I will answer your question and say that it is both. This was an act of terror by a person who was unstable and sympathized with a radical idealogy in an attempt to feel validation. There are a lot of issues at play here and all can be debated until the end of time I'm sure. I've heard all the angles, "it's a gun issue", "it's a homosexual issue", "it's a mental health issue" and to be honest it's probably all.

Bottom line is there is LITTLE anyone can do to prevent these things. We can do our best to mitigate the damages, but preventing entirely is a near impossibility. Unstable people who have an agenda to mass murder without remorse will find a way. If it wasn't guns, it would be homemade bombs or knives or whatever their sadistic minds could come up with. Look at the Tsarnaev's in Boston for example.

I'm with you on feeling a bit numb Drich. I'm in Detroit and literally every week there are stories of shootings, we've lost 5 kids under 10 years old this year to shootings in Detroit. But the violence is so common place it loses its shock. The media does not help and to further complicate things, we are a generation of smartphones and instant news so this is around the world in about 10 minutes. Yes the media puts their spin on things and politicians play the angles because when it comes down to it, every story becomes a game of what THEY can get out of it to further themselves.

I've got a lot to say on this topic but I will refrain for now.
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Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Kingpin - June 14, 2016 at 9:12 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 9:25 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Minimalist - June 14, 2016 at 10:29 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 9:46 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:06 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 14, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Kingpin - June 14, 2016 at 10:17 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Kingpin - June 14, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:26 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Silver - June 14, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Tiberius - June 14, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Tiberius - June 14, 2016 at 11:01 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Whateverist - June 14, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by ignoramus - June 14, 2016 at 7:30 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 14, 2016 at 7:43 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 15, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 16, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 11:03 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 16, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Iroscato - June 14, 2016 at 7:01 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by ignoramus - June 14, 2016 at 7:48 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 14, 2016 at 10:49 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Losty - June 14, 2016 at 11:36 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Aroura - June 14, 2016 at 11:37 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Spirian - June 15, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Aroura - June 15, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 15, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by ignoramus - June 15, 2016 at 12:07 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Huggy Bear - June 15, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Silver - June 15, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 11:52 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:57 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 12:00 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:19 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 1:37 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 15, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:59 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 15, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 15, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:55 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 10:36 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 1:31 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 2:28 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 2:46 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 15, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Huggy Bear - June 15, 2016 at 3:33 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 16, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 2:50 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 2:28 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 16, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Losty - June 16, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Losty - June 16, 2016 at 4:07 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Mermaid - June 16, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 3:34 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 3:22 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 4:51 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Silver - June 19, 2016 at 1:49 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 1:59 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 19, 2016 at 9:25 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 17, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Minimalist - June 17, 2016 at 10:33 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 5:29 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Divinity - June 19, 2016 at 11:47 am
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Minimalist - June 19, 2016 at 3:18 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 19, 2016 at 5:14 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 21, 2016 at 2:38 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 22, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Gawdzilla - June 22, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Minimalist - June 19, 2016 at 7:33 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 19, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Silver - June 20, 2016 at 1:12 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 20, 2016 at 6:37 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Cyberman - June 20, 2016 at 7:48 am
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 21, 2016 at 3:48 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 21, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Regina - June 22, 2016 at 9:28 am
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 22, 2016 at 1:14 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 22, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 23, 2016 at 9:50 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 23, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 23, 2016 at 2:29 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 24, 2016 at 3:50 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 25, 2016 at 11:42 am
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 27, 2016 at 9:10 am
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