(June 14, 2016 at 2:27 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(June 12, 2016 at 7:31 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: This resonates with me, as someone who was raised by a very violent and abusive Mother. I was required to call her "Ma'am", kiss her goodnight, and say "I love you". Of course, I knew that if I didn't, I would get my head put through the nearest wall. Did I want her to love me? Oh yes. And I desperately wanted to not have to be afraid anymore. That never happened.How true. An abusive god created by a society that thought parents and husbands owned their children and wives and were justified in whatever they wanted to do. Such a religion has no place in the 21st century.
It strikes me as much the same with the god concept. Sure, you're supposed to praise because you have been "saved" from the ultimate eternal torture. (Similar to "Yay, she didn't hit me today.") But there is this constant message of being born FILTHY and sinful, the constant fear of being truly unworthy and disobedient, and the constant begging for forgiveness and promises to do better.
You're worthless, the only thing that makes you not worthless is ME, and you if you don't obey me every second I may have to torture you forever no matter what you say.
It also sounds a lot like an abusive husband.
The whole thing about worthlessness is the same tactic used in commercial advertising. "You're inadequate. You don't have what it takes and you never will unless you buy what we're selling."
and if you and your meme are wrong?
What if it has nothing to do with worth, what's being sold or abuse? Again what is it is a simple matter of infected/sick verse vaccinated/cured?
Just suspend the egyptian idea of after life being warranted on works or deeds, and just assume for a moment that eternal life is based on something different. Let's say it is based on being inoculated for a sickness or disease. If one does not get his medicine the will be segregated from the well population and die.
That is what atonement is. It is a protection for the disease of sin.
I'm using the example of the zombie virus in another thread.. Let's say sin is like the Zombie virus. Does it matter if your a good person or not. If you have the zombie virus even if you have not fully turned yet you can still infect others. So then should your 'morality or character' matter when quarantining those who are infect from those who have been inoculated?
What shouldn't be allowed in the 21 century is the atheistic straw man that puts Christianity on the same basis of all other works based religions.