RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian
April 23, 2011 at 1:12 am
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2011 at 1:34 am by Godscreated.)
(April 22, 2011 at 3:46 pm)Strongbad Wrote:(April 22, 2011 at 10:15 am)Godschild Wrote:
You are implying that YOU know what it takes to be saved, but that certain Southern Baptists do not not have this knowledge. They're obviously not true Christians, right?
As far as you're concerned, priests who rape innocent boys should never see the outside of prison, as long as they are alive. But don't you also believe that if while they are in prison, they "truly repent" of their "sins" and accept Jesus into their hearts, they will get to spend all eternity in the utopia of heaven? On the other hand, should a man who never committed a crime against his fellow men and lived a peaceful law-abiding life, but was never convinced to believe in your god, have to spend eternity in the fiery pits of hell, as far as you're concerned?
Yes I do know why and how a person is saved, if I didn't then how could I be saved. I said they were not saved. They may have the knowledge to be saved but they have not accept it in their hearts, just knowing in this case does not get you all the way there. Obviously they are not.
That's what I stated isn't it. Yes to your first question. The crimes are not against man they are against God and they are called sin and the judgement is for unrepented sin because there was no acceptance of the One who died so we could be forgiven.
(April 22, 2011 at 4:03 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:Quote:I'm a Southern Baptist and I know many Catholics that are saved and most of my fellow Baptist would agree.
But what about Catholic doctrine? You say "many" Catholics are "saved," yet you apparently don't believe that they all are. But let's forget about whether they're "good" or "bad" Catholics or Baptists. Would you say that a person who follows Catholic doctrine to the letter is a true Christian? And do you think that Catholics think that Baptists like yourself are going to heaven even though you eat meat on Fridays during Lent and have never experienced the sacrament of confession?
I do not believe that everyone in any denomination is truly saved. As long as they have accepted Christ as the Son of God and repented of their sin and continue to live for Him then yes they are saved. No doctrine is 100% correct, Southern Baptist believe in once saved always saved, I do not, I believe that a person can walk away from their salvation if they so desire. My nephew's wife and her mother are catholic and they believe I will and all the rest of my family will be in heaven. My wifes family on both sides are mostly catholic and they believe I will be in heaven. I do not know how all catholics believe so to answer your question about all catholics I can not. I would find it strange that a catholic would believe I or any baptist would go to hell because we eat meat on Friday or during Lent, as far as the sacrament of confession goes I do not know.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
