RE: Why the religious will never admit you won the argument (and why they don't care)
June 17, 2016 at 1:26 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 9:56 am)Veritas_Vincit Wrote: Fair enough - did you read the link at the bottom to Iron Chariots wiki page detailing the Kalam and why it doesn't hold up?
If you think there is a way of presenting it that does hold up are welcome to put it forward here. So far I don't find it convincing. It's cleaver, but on closer inspection it is ultimately flawed.
I did miss the link, thanks for bringing it to my attention.
I do see a number of issues, and I think that some of them show that the author and their citation are either not familiar with the arguments, ignorant concerning them, or choose to ignore them. A number of the arguments seem to take a simple version of the Kalam, and make wild assumptions, which they then tear down. One of the first sub-headings cites Dan Barker, and I would say that this falls under this category. I would recommend that you listen to some of the debates by Dr. Craig himself or look to some good apologetic websites in favor of the Kalam to get a better understanding.
The following seems to give a good description and addresses many complaints.
http://evolutiondismantled.com/kalam
If you have a specific argument that you would like to discuss, then I would be happy to oblige.
