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What makes a religion?
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RE: What makes a religion?
(June 17, 2016 at 4:02 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I surrender to not fighting against reality.

I don't know what "follow to achieve" means but I currently don't aim to achieve anything.

What I value most is friendship.

So, what I surrender to and value most are two different things and I currently have no ambitions to achieve sooooo MK..... What does this mean?

Whatever is number 1 and all close to it, in what you value/love, and how you go on about living towards it, is your religion.

Even if you hardly value what you value most, what you value most by definition is what you worship. We never value God as he ought to be valued, all we can do is make him number 1 such that everything pales in how much we value it.

Otherwise, we cannot truly value it at the level due to it.
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What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 10:22 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by mlmooney89 - June 15, 2016 at 10:34 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Spirian - June 15, 2016 at 10:39 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Cyberman - June 15, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:15 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Spirian - June 15, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Rhondazvous - June 15, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 12:42 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Rhondazvous - June 18, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Angrboda - June 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 15, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 16, 2016 at 5:40 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 16, 2016 at 6:16 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by ignoramus - June 15, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Dystopia - June 16, 2016 at 6:14 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 16, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 16, 2016 at 8:26 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 16, 2016 at 8:28 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 16, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by ignoramus - June 16, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 16, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:54 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Minimalist - June 17, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Minimalist - June 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:18 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 3:48 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 6:26 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by IATIA - June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by ApeNotKillApe - June 17, 2016 at 4:47 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:01 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:03 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:06 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:07 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:07 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 5:23 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 6:19 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 6:58 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 7:11 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Foxaèr - June 17, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 7:19 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Foxaèr - June 17, 2016 at 7:22 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 7:29 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 7:32 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 7:50 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Angrboda - June 17, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Foxaèr - June 17, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Foxaèr - June 17, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Heatheness - June 17, 2016 at 8:50 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Foxaèr - June 17, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Expired - June 18, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Whateverist - June 18, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Rhondazvous - June 18, 2016 at 6:52 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Darwins Disciple - June 26, 2016 at 8:38 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 26, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 27, 2016 at 2:33 pm

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