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What makes a religion?
RE: What makes a religion?
(June 17, 2016 at 7:29 pm)Losty Wrote:
(June 17, 2016 at 7:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I've tried over the years. What do you think of the argument that we require an just judgement and perception to who we are, to have an exact merit type value? Is it that we don't have exact merit type value or is that it doesn't require perception to exist? Or is that we do have and it requires perception, and we are the perception that maintains it?

I feel the Quran aside from the name of God, begins with that argument in the first Surah revealed (Suratal Iqra). 

"Do they (the human) think no one sees them (the human)?"

Wut

Merit type value.

1. Can it exist on it's own with no one seeing it or does it exist through perception?
2. If it exists through perception, are we that perception or does it require a more greater perception then ours?
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What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 10:22 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by mlmooney89 - June 15, 2016 at 10:34 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 10:42 am
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RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Cyberman - June 15, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:15 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Spirian - June 15, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Rhondazvous - June 15, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by FatAndFaithless - June 15, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 15, 2016 at 12:42 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Rhondazvous - June 18, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Angrboda - June 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 15, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 16, 2016 at 5:40 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 16, 2016 at 6:16 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by ignoramus - June 15, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Dystopia - June 16, 2016 at 6:14 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 16, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 16, 2016 at 8:26 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 16, 2016 at 8:28 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 16, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by ignoramus - June 16, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 16, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:54 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Minimalist - June 17, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Minimalist - June 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:18 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 3:48 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 6:26 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by madog - June 17, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by IATIA - June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by ApeNotKillApe - June 17, 2016 at 4:47 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:01 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:03 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:06 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:07 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:07 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 5:23 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 6:19 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 6:58 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 7:11 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Silver - June 17, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 7:19 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Silver - June 17, 2016 at 7:22 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 7:29 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 7:32 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Losty - June 17, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 7:50 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Angrboda - June 17, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Silver - June 17, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 17, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Silver - June 17, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Heatheness - June 17, 2016 at 8:50 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Silver - June 17, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Expired - June 18, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Whateverist - June 18, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Rhondazvous - June 18, 2016 at 6:52 pm
RE: What makes a religion? - by Darwins Disciple - June 26, 2016 at 8:38 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by Edwardo Piet - June 26, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: What makes a religion? - by robvalue - June 27, 2016 at 2:33 pm

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