(April 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: Emotion is unjust in a court of law, but not when it comes to personal forgiveness. Rationality does not always require lack of emotion. Say a man's daughter is raped. Is his hatred of the rapist irrational? No. Is his wish that the perpetrator be punished irrational? No, because rationally it serves the purpose of keeping others safe. Is his judgment clouded by his emotion? Yes, but it does not hinder his ability to see the situation clearly. In fact, he may see the situation more clearly than those who look at it without emotion, if such a thing is possible.If you messed with any member of my family Shell I'd have clear purpose in dismembering you before feeding your entrails to maggots. That punishment might be disproportionate to the crime... and therefore unjust. I would then owe forgiveness. I''m not talking about a flawed legal system, but actual justice.
Take posting on this forum. It's never good to try to discuss something when you're emotionally engaged... why? because you too easily go too far... losing your rational perspective. It's ALWAYS better to be rational rather than emotional.
(April 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: Besides, what about being forgiven simply for finding Jesus is just? Is that justice for the victim? Is it fair that some deity does the forgiving for them? While I find legal matters to be unjust at times, I find them far more just than the Christian way of handling things.In finding Jesus, a person is seeking forgiveness. God always forgives, because God is ultimately just. People don't have to forgive you, and you'd need to make things right and pay your debts. In my mind... if your debt is your life then that's a debt.
(April 23, 2011 at 10:19 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:I don't think I ever use arguments from emotion, for the reason stated. I'm not in-human. We have to acknowledge that we're emotional animals. You can only come to a faith in God through logic. If something is so right logically you can have an emotional response to that.(April 23, 2011 at 8:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: All arguments from emotion Strongbad, which is a poor basis for justice. You may never forgive a personal injustice... that isn't to say that you shouldn't.
Really? And you dont use arguments from emotion? Are you some kind of computer? Are you inhuman? Exactly how can you come to a "faith" in a god through logic? I find it EXTREMELY hypocritical of a god believer pointing fingers and complaining about other people using arguments from emotion..its bad enough we have these mr.spock atheists on this site... As far as I am concerned, arguments from emotion are on the table.. Feel free to cry if I decide your emotional argument is nothing more than being a crybaby.
