(June 18, 2016 at 4:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(June 17, 2016 at 4:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Gays and lesbians and bisexuals and transgender exist in every nation. The only difference is to the degree that the majority are not fucking assholes to them. LGBT are not the problem, the assholes are.The previous comments were about muslims and homosexuality. In some Middle Eastern muslim areas homosexuals are actively killed. As I pointed out, just about all of the Afghan men are homosexual pedophiles but they don't consider themselves to be homosexuals. They can therefore skirt the Islamic penalty for homosexuality.
I don't give a fuck, yes and?
There was a day long ago when gays were arrested and murdered in America, and it also wasn't long ago that Harvey Milk was murdered, and Matthew Sheppard was murdered, and even today you still have assholes like Kim Davis and supporters of Ted Cruz condemning gays.
Christianity is no better on social equality than Islam, other than we have secular law watering down their bigotry and keeping a leash on it. I have been on line for 15 years on countless websites and social media and have heard plenty of Christians promote the same bullshit that gays are pedos and teach the same self loathing.
I have no doubt that if you stripped the west of secular protection of minorities, and you had our right wing having a monopoly of power, they would become as barbaric to gays as we see in the west.
But don't hand me any bullshit that gays in America are not targets of Christians. Islam being currently a more active and more violent volcano, does not make Christianity any less of a volcano. All holy books are used as weapons. All the books of Abraham were written in an era of tribal kingdoms and all of them were also scientifically ignorant books too.
Nobody is saying or should say don't criticize Islam, but Islam also didn't invent religious bigotry or religious violence. All I am saying is don't cherry pick which book you criticize. The west became more civil in spite of religion, not because of it.