(April 24, 2011 at 12:02 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: I am discussing the point raised, unlike some. But this a deviation from the original topic.
What that humans can "give human rights to a planet"....are you serious?? The Planet is fine WE are the things that are in danger of going extinct.(as per that..what did you call him??...'Idiot George Carlin' humerously pointed out) The whole notion of the UN's 'discussion' is ludicrous and as has been stated nothing more than peddling a countries religious belief system
(April 24, 2011 at 12:02 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: You think building a sky scraper out of cement to grow food is emmision friendly or economically viable. I just don't think it is a feasible idea, holds no merit in realtiy and is far from the correct direction. The heating & pumping of water alone would cost a fortune.
You didn't even look at the vids or articles I posted...did you. Buildings like this are being built in Australia and around the world...OK they are not "intensively farming" but the potential is there. This concept is not new...it has been around for about 50 years maybe more (about as long as the whole 'global warming' notion)
(April 24, 2011 at 12:02 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: If we were to move towards renewables for our source of energy, it would't be such a large problem. Clean renewable energy.
Wonderful!! What resources are these??
(April 24, 2011 at 12:02 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: We need to understand that we can't have what we want when we want it. Fruit & veg out of season, never ending meat, and every other conveience you can think of. We just can't have everything at arms length all the time. We need to learn that if things are going to change, we must change the way we live. A BLT out of season would be out of the question, its just not viable. Let alone our reliance on fossil fuels.
This is nothing new....it has also been like this for as long as I can remember
(April 24, 2011 at 12:02 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: I tell you now, if the third world lives a we do in the first world, we are all in alot of trouble. That that is one of the major factors in the pending food shortages. The Palnet cannot support this amount of people living at a first world level. It just can't sustain this many people the way we want to live, the growth is just too fast, and we consume too much.
Your statements are not new. Every young person for around 40 years that I'm aware of who have "raised the alarm", have produced very little to solve the problem others have gone ahead with these unrealistc concepts as you have called them and come a long way since the first draft of the Vertical farms. Earlier I asked you what YOU were doing to be part of the solution...you haven't answered me as yet.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5