Orlando shooting/The non gun debate

[abaris]

Let me see if I am understanding you correctly. Your grandfather immigrated instead of staying and fighting? If I am right, so what? I hate male testosterone, not all men are cut out for the battlefield and just like any threat of violence, even in street crime, and rape, it isn't fight or flight as either or, but whatever got you to the point of survival is what worked. Blaming people fleeing war is sick, even today. If I got that wrong correct me.

You probably misunderstood. I was in a gun debate on a different board some years ago. Might have been in the wake of Newtown. And there was this ever reccuring argument of defending oneself against the state. I brought up my grandfather as an example, to show that it's not always possible or the best solution to stay and fight. Didn't sit well with certain people.