RE: Why the religious will never admit you won the argument (and why they don't care)
June 23, 2016 at 12:32 pm
(June 22, 2016 at 5:58 pm)Veritas_Vincit Wrote: Steve II - it's starting to really look like you aren't reading my posts and you're dancing around the issue.
Forget evolution, as I said, evolution could be proven wrong tomorrow and it wouldn't matter because ID and Creationism still have about as much evidence for them as the Flat Earth Society!
I am not a scientist, and neither are you, but the current consensus among scientists is that Evolution by natural selection is the best explanation for the diversity of life on Earth, backed up by shelves of evidence. They have a different opinion about those 'gaps' which you would understand if you thought about the puzzle analogy. If you think you know better than the consensus of the scientific community then this is a lost cause... but then, I imagine you haven't come here looking to change your mind, you've come here because you consider yourself to be a Christian and you believe it it all, and you've come here to try to convince these atheists that they don't know what they're talking about, right?
The problem is, the facts don't support Christianity and they certainly don't support Creationism or ID, and if you actually turn around and consider them, neither of them are rationally or empirically justified. The whole construct is like one of those big knots where when you pull both ends, the whole things just comes undone. You owe it to yourself to consider the evidence, open your mind! Read The Selfish Gene, or The Greatest Show On Earth, both by Richard Dawkins - both are amazing books. Or you can go to talkorigins.com which I already listed in the last post. Or watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk
Or go here: http://talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
When did I give you the impression that I was willing to defend ID or creationism?
See my post above to Rob for my position on evolution. I just can't stand when people wave their hands in the air, look down their noses, and say things like:
"They probably have a very narrow view of science."
"they are fed misinformation about science by their religion"
"these new ideas threaten their identity and community"
"but anyone who has studied evolution knows that it is a fact"
