Why the religious will never admit you won the argument (and why they don't care)

[Mister Agenda]

Since hundred of millions, if not billions of theists accept biological evolution as a fact, your poor showing as a follower of the ID sub-branch of Creationism (which has never been able to propose an unsolvable instance of 'irreducible complexity') hardly demonstrates that theists are ignorant.

I find that anything with the word system in it is largely irreducibly complex.  The cardiovascular system for instance.   Which came first, the pump, the plumbing, the fluid in the system.   Not to mention, that this is a transport system for other systems (just pumping blood through the body isn't sufficient).  It even comes with it's own repair system, so when a feed or return line breaks, it is automatically patched (within reason)  It is a closed loop system, with feedback, and control modification for when demands change. 

As an engineer, I wonder how many trials unguided evolution had to go through, before the return lines made it back to the heart (or all the lines connected at all)?  How many times did a version appear, where the system became bypassed?   Which came first, the heart, or the control systems, that power and regulate it? 

I agree with this post at uncommon descent http://www.uncommondescent.com/intellige...o-a-whale/

Let's start putting some numbers to the claims, and see if they make sense!

Have you considered researching the evolution of the cardiovascular system? I mean seriously, if it is actually irreducibly complex, that's a major scientific discovery. I'm looking forward to hearing about it in the journals.