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Poll: Would you kill him?
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Would you do it?
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RE: Would you do it?
(April 25, 2011 at 7:38 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:
Void Wrote:So you're fine with killing someone to further your own agenda given that:

1. You are in a bad position and
2. They are in a position much better than your own

How can you possibly justify that as a moral decision?

How can you not justify that as a moral decision? Morality is what we make of it... what sort of ridiculous meter of 'how x' morals must be are you using that I am not?

I disagree that morality is "What we make of it" - That can be applied to our individual values, but morality is a subset of value theory dealing with conflicting values, something is either morally good or morally bad relative to other values and those propositions like "x is morally good" are either true or false - Anyway, I fail to see how killing a person simply to transfer resources can be seen as being of a positive moral value, sure it's good for the individual getting the resources, but it's worse for the person who is losing both their resources and their life - They loose more than you gain. It's good for the individual in precisely the same way that raping a child is good for a pedophile.

I might make a thread about it later, it's way too long winded for here.

Quote:Fairness is receiving what you put out. If you put out and receive nothing: that is unfair.

No, fairness is being treated equally, there is no cosmic fairness and no measure of fair or unfair outside the interactions of sentient beings. If you put time and effort into a business or product that ends up being a failure while someone else comes up with an idea off the top of their head and is successful there is nothing unfair about it, they simply had a good idea and you did not.

Quote:Deservence is a measure of how much you put out. If someone wins a lottery, they put out next to nothing for it... they do not deserve any of that money.

Life isn't fair though.

So if someone puts lots of effort into banging their head on a wall they "deserve" as much as someone who paints fences?

I'd argue that a lottery winner absolutely does deserve that money just as much as it's possible to deserve something - They entered into an agreement for which they stood to gain and did so, it would only be unfair if they took the ticket to the counter and were told "Sorry, but you haven't put enough out".
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Messages In This Thread
Would you do it? - by Zenith - April 25, 2011 at 4:05 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Doubting Thomas - April 25, 2011 at 4:18 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Zenith - April 25, 2011 at 6:12 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 4:26 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Cinjin - April 25, 2011 at 6:14 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Diamond - April 25, 2011 at 4:26 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by theVOID - April 25, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Zenith - April 25, 2011 at 6:07 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by theVOID - April 25, 2011 at 7:32 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Zenith - May 2, 2011 at 9:35 am
RE: Would you do it? - by Cinjin - April 25, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Shell B - April 25, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 6:11 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by theVOID - April 25, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by MrJatt - April 25, 2011 at 6:20 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 6:25 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 6:38 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Doubting Thomas - April 25, 2011 at 6:45 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by reverendjeremiah - April 25, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Zenith - April 25, 2011 at 7:09 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 7:38 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by theVOID - April 25, 2011 at 8:01 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Cinjin - April 25, 2011 at 8:13 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Chris_Zee_Great - April 25, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 8:25 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Cinjin - April 25, 2011 at 9:05 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Zen Badger - April 25, 2011 at 8:39 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 9:07 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by padraic - April 25, 2011 at 10:50 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by ib.me.ub - April 25, 2011 at 11:51 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Captain Scarlet - April 26, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: Would you do it? - by tackattack - April 26, 2011 at 6:32 am
RE: Would you do it? - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 9:51 am
RE: Would you do it? - by Doubting Thomas - April 26, 2011 at 1:17 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Anomalocaris - April 26, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - April 26, 2011 at 2:33 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 11:30 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Supernaut - April 27, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by HeyItsZeus - April 27, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by Gator - April 27, 2011 at 4:46 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by LastPoet - April 27, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by jason56 - May 1, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: Would you do it? - by LastPoet - May 2, 2011 at 9:49 am
RE: Would you do it? - by Zenith - May 2, 2011 at 10:12 am
RE: Would you do it? - by Theistsbane - May 2, 2011 at 11:06 am
RE: Would you do it? - by Violet - May 2, 2011 at 11:43 am

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