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Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 27, 2016 at 10:29 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(June 27, 2016 at 10:10 am)Drich Wrote: Lukewarm Muslims/Muslims who have compromised their beliefs away, meaning they don't take the koran literally. we don't have to worry about, only those who truly believe in their religion. They truly do not have any choices before them.

The danger of fundamentalist religious belief is not limited to any particular belief set within that larger group.  Fundy muslims blow up nightclubs, fundy christians blow up abortion clinics.  Fundy muslims babble about allahs laws, fundy christians cast yahwehs vote.  They aren't dangerous, in either case, because they are christian or muslim, but because they're fundy nutjobs.  

That's why I don't worry about you, point of fact.  Your not a literalist who truly believes.  The worst I expect of you is to say silly shit, and by and large, that's the worst I expect of any particular muslim.

That's the thing sport, It does not take a radicalized fundamentalist to do those things, or read death into this religion. It's on the surface, for any and all who are more devout than the luke warm... You seemed confused as you are arguing christian fundamentals as if they were how Muslims also worked. (either because you don't know any better or because you are afraid to argue facts) But Islam is not splintered like Christianity is. There is only one interpretation under the sunni sect. And again 90% are sunni. Sunni have a funny way of killing those who do not strictly follow their teachings, which is why so many are sunni.

So Under sunni rule, there is only lukewarm and devout. The devout all have the potential of turning on those who are not devout sunni. Which is why people like the Imam of central Fl will never openly identify the shooter as evil and what he does as evil.

So again, it doesn't take a nut job... Just a Muslim serious about his faith.
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Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Kingpin - June 14, 2016 at 9:12 am
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 10:14 am
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:26 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:39 pm
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