(April 26, 2011 at 6:59 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Probably apt for the who gets judged debate: http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/corner/read/r00290.html
That doesn't really answer my question, or at least I missed it amongst all that text.
In your view, are people judged upon death or only upon the return of Jesus to earth?
And if it is post-return, what is the state of their consciousness in the interim?
Quote:As a member of the unwashed, I believe that to be symbolic/ a natural & integral expression of conversion. ie conversion doesn't happen without it.
Huh? Baptism is already symbolic. Do you mean the water is "metaphoric"? As in; "People do not need to be physically submerged in water, the water is a metaphor for the holy spirit washing away our sins" or something to that effect?
Also, I noticed this on your link "Christians will be judged according to their works and so will non-Christians" - What bearing does that have on your insistence that one need be "baptized" to be saved?
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