Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 9, 2024, 7:27 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Refuting Christians with their Own Bible
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible
(June 29, 2016 at 2:40 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:
(June 29, 2016 at 2:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: It is very easy to judge preindustrial social structures from this side of the industrial revolution.


That is an interesting thing for you to say, Chad.  I think of you as defending objective morals.  If that is right then aren't you basically saying the reprehensibility of slavery didn't exist or was only a misdemeanor before the industrial revolution.  Now of course it is a capital offense but only because there exist less cruel ways to get work done.  So which is it?  Conditional morals or the bible got slavery wrong?

As it relates to the topic of slavery, I fully realize that nothing I write will be given fair consideration by hardened skeptics. It is not my role to persuade; but merely to present. The purpose of the Mosaic code has always been governance of a theocratic state within a dispensation that begins with the Exodus and ends with the Resurrection. (For nitpickers, Biblical Hebrew uses the same word for everlasting and perpetual. Perpetual has a slightly different connotation that fits with the interpretation I here offer.)

Only a dishonest interpreter says that the Lord did not make plain the evil of slavery. That knowledge is enshrined in the Passover ceremony. And several times the Lord prefaces His pronouncements with “I am the Lord your God who brought you from the Land of Egypt, out of the House of Bondage” thereby reminding them of their 400 years in bitter slavery.

Only a dishonest interpreter says that the Lord promoted or endorsed slavery just because He allowed it to happen and placed restrictions on it. It is like a parent who says to his son, “You know I disapprove of premarital sex, but if you do at least use a condom.” The Lord bemoans the fact that the Hebrew people were often stubborn and rebellious and, just like a concerned parent, tried to mitigate the damage caused by poor choices.

The OP and its defenders hypocritically accuse Christians of selecting only the passages they like and ignoring the rest. As seen in multiple replies above, the objecting atheists are not remotely interested in comprehensive exegesis. They would rather object to any god who would allow human history to play itself out instead of simply mandating a post-industrial utopia in the style of today’s liberal Western democracies. The OP has nothing to do with biblical contradictions; but rather, just a covert set-up to discuss theodicy.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Incognito - June 28, 2016 at 7:02 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Spirian - June 28, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 28, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:56 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:41 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 28, 2016 at 11:06 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:21 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:35 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 12:04 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 10:01 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Neo-Scholastic - June 30, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 30, 2016 at 11:13 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by emjay - June 30, 2016 at 1:19 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  I own an XBOX and that's good enough for me. Angrboda 5 493 July 9, 2023 at 8:21 pm
Last Post: Fireball
  We atheists now have our own social network rado84 16 1863 August 12, 2021 at 7:51 am
Last Post: vulcanlogician
  "You just want to be your own god"? zwanzig 48 4560 July 7, 2021 at 5:01 pm
Last Post: vulcanlogician
  why do people still have faith in god even after seeing their land turned into dust? zempo 8 1523 June 20, 2021 at 8:16 am
Last Post: onlinebiker
  How to beat a presupp at their own game Superjock 150 12536 April 16, 2021 at 4:05 pm
Last Post: arewethereyet
  James Randi deserves his own RIP thread. Brian37 27 2235 January 6, 2021 at 11:39 am
Last Post: RozzerusUnrelentus
Wink Refuting Theistic Argument Ricardo 40 3580 October 7, 2019 at 3:11 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Miracles and their place, and Atheists. Mystic 35 4596 October 4, 2018 at 3:53 am
Last Post: robvalue
  Famous people losing their religion: stories Fake Messiah 14 2815 May 21, 2018 at 10:13 am
Last Post: Clueless Morgan
  Make up your own atheistic quote Transcended Dimensions 56 9958 October 30, 2017 at 9:04 am
Last Post: brewer



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)