(April 26, 2011 at 11:45 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:(April 26, 2011 at 11:22 pm)Watson Wrote: What you proposed was not a hypothetical Non-Christian, you proposed a hypothetically 'perfect' person.
Sorry Watson I thought that was implied in the statement, i.e not asking for forgivness.
But to make it reeeeallly, reeeeally easy for you I'll clarify,
This person has lead a ideal life in every way, he has been honest, fair, charitible to the extent that all his time,money and possesions has gone to help others.
He has been faithful to his wife and chaste until marriage to her.
He has been kind to animals and helped in the community.
Yet he is an atheist, he does not believe in god and has lived his life in this way for the simple fact that he thinks it is the right thing to do.
When he dies he does not ask for forgiveness or accept jesus.
The other person is a complete prick and does the total opposite, steals, lies, tortures etc,etc.
Yet on his deathbed he accepts J.C and begs for forgivness(and he's about to die, so he REALLY means it)
Who gets into heaven?
without a doubt - the 2nd guy who tortures people!
Because their god is an arrogant douchebag lawyer. Stroke his ego and you're in.
Plus, a "god bonus" ... if he tortured people in his life than he and god are birds of a feather and they will get along splendidly in the hereafter.