Refuting Christians with their Own Bible

[Veritas_Vincit]

So neither of you read the part where I explain why that is a bullshit answer to anything? I assume she did, maybe you didn't.

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Let me put it another way: what possible value can morality have other than maximising the wellbeing of conscious creatures?

What is the point of morality to you?

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Otherwise what is moral about morality?

 
Morality seeks to define what is 'good' and 'bad'. You make moral judgments almost constantly. Kind of important for daily life. From Wikipedia: 

Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") is the differentiation of intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are distinguished as proper and those that are improper.

I was pointing out that while you think your morality is objective, it is not."Maximising the wellbeing of conscious creatures" is simply not sufficient to form a theory of ethical behavior. So if it is not sufficient to form a system of morality, what is it that you are basing your system on? Not science. What then?

Think about it. What is 'good' about good and 'bad' about bad?

In a universe devoid of life, populated only by rocks, would good and bad mean anything?

If morality is about behaviour, why does behaviour matter? Other than how it positively or negatively impacts on conscious creatures?

Sam Harris explains it very well, I'm paraphrasing: imagine a world in which every conscious creature, every human and animal, suffered as much as it can for as long as it can. This is by definition 'bad' - in fact, this is as bad as things can be. If you think there's a reality that is worse than this, then you haven't understood the definition.

So, if we start there, any universe, any choice, any reality with less suffering is by definition better. Once you take this basic premise, and assume that non-suffering is generally preferable to suffering, health is generally preferable to disease, life is generally preferable to death, you have the basis for a system of moral behaviour.

Evaluating the morality of any given action is now simply a question of evaluating its impact on ones self and others in terms of whether it creates suffering or promotes wellbeing. From there it's just a question of how to we make life better. Science is the best approach to this, in fact, it is the only approach worth using - it is the most realible method we have to make models of reality and figure out what is real and how the universe works.