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Refuting Christians with their Own Bible
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible
(July 4, 2016 at 10:20 am)Irrational Wrote:
(July 4, 2016 at 9:40 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Because not "everyone" believed that "everyone" was their neighbor, or even equal as a human being.  Jesus obviously was not very clear on this because slavery went on for centuries, and as pointed out before, he tells slaves to obey their masters, which is not in line with "everybody should love everybody".

The Bible just simply isn't explicitly clear on slavery being wrong. But putting that aside, it's not like we even have clear unambiguous access to all of God's moral rules, assuming God exists. So even if divine morality exists, there is no evidence that it is fully and readily available and that Christians or others are going by the rules of such morality rather than by the same or similar standards everyone else is going by.

I agree and that's why I have a problem with the explanation of jesus not telling people slavery was wrong so they could figure it out for themselves. If that was the case why have a bible, a messiah, followers, or churches? Why give commands on certain actions and not others, why give commands to certain people in certain time periods and not others? Also if the idea was for us to draw our own moral conclusions, how would we know if we made the right choice and would it be moral to punish us for our conclusions?
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Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Incognito - June 28, 2016 at 7:02 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Spirian - June 28, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 28, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:56 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:41 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 28, 2016 at 11:06 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:21 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:35 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 12:04 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 10:01 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 30, 2016 at 11:13 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by emjay - June 30, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Mr.wizard - July 4, 2016 at 11:17 am

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