Refuting Christians with their Own Bible

[SteveII]

First, welcome to the forum and thank you for the thoughtful comment. Why do you use "xtians"?

I found this link this morning after searching for Jewish thought on the subject. I found it interesting. It's long but if you really are interested in the subject...

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cd...e-Jews.htm

Thanks for the link. It seems to me that what it boils down to if that

1. If your god just told people straight up that certain actions were wrong, people wouldn't be truly 'good' because people would only be doing 'good' because they were told to do, not because they were truly 'good'.
2. By not explicitly saying that slavery is wrong, your god has given people the chance to 'learn' for themselves that slavery is wrong.

So essentially people are 'good' despite the babble, and not because of it?

I use xtians for two reasons, one because it saves key depressions, and two because I think the term 'cross'tians is apt, giving that my view is that the majority of xtians are cross/irritated/angry that the whole world does not share their beliefs and we object to having their particular brand of religion shoved in our faces. And I use 'babble' because IMO that is all the bible contains - meaningless nonsense.

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Great. another one that can't have a respectful discussion. Ugh.