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No such thing as a "true" Christian
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RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian
April 29, 2011 at 4:20 am
(April 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm)theVOID Wrote: In your view, are people judged upon death or only upon the return of Jesus to earth?
And if it is post-return, what is the state of their consciousness in the interim?


(April 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm)theVOID Wrote:
Quote:As a member of the unwashed, I believe that to be symbolic/ a natural & integral expression of conversion. ie conversion doesn't happen without it.
Huh? Baptism is already symbolic. Do you mean the water is "metaphoric"? As in; "People do not need to be physically submerged in water, the water is a metaphor for the holy spirit washing away our sins" or something to that effect?
Yeah it's symbolic/ the physical act isn't actually necessary to be baptized. We still say our sins were washed away but water has nothing to do with that ever.

(April 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm)theVOID Wrote: Also, I noticed this on your link "Christians will be judged according to their works and so will non-Christians" - What bearing does that have on your insistence that one need be "baptized" to be saved?
"Christians - those who are going to heaven because Jesus has forgiven their sins - will discover that God will judge their works too! But this judgment is to evaluate the "spiritual works" we did in this life. It is not for punishment. They will go to heaven because of Jesus' forgiveness."

What you do isn't so important in Xtianity as being a new person in Christ. What you do is a consequence of what you believe, and not the other way around.
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No such thing as a "true" Christian - by reverendjeremiah - April 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Cinjin - April 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 21, 2011 at 5:10 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 22, 2011 at 4:53 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 21, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Rayaan - April 21, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by padraic - April 21, 2011 at 9:01 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Cinjin - April 22, 2011 at 1:33 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Rev. Rye - April 21, 2011 at 11:12 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Eleazar - April 22, 2011 at 5:08 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 22, 2011 at 12:54 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 22, 2011 at 2:36 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 22, 2011 at 10:15 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 22, 2011 at 3:46 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 23, 2011 at 1:12 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 23, 2011 at 8:16 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 24, 2011 at 2:34 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Skipper - April 23, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 23, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 24, 2011 at 12:04 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Skipper - April 26, 2011 at 8:30 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 24, 2011 at 2:16 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2011 at 2:30 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 24, 2011 at 3:22 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2011 at 3:35 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 6:17 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by downbeatplumb - April 24, 2011 at 11:44 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2011 at 6:23 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 24, 2011 at 3:41 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Sarcasm - April 22, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 24, 2011 at 3:10 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2011 at 3:19 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 23, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 23, 2011 at 7:36 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 5:59 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 23, 2011 at 8:28 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Shell B - April 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 23, 2011 at 8:52 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Shell B - April 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 24, 2011 at 11:13 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 2:45 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 25, 2011 at 7:16 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 8:44 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 23, 2011 at 9:48 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 24, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 1:27 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 24, 2011 at 1:44 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 2:56 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 24, 2011 at 7:23 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 1:00 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 24, 2011 at 6:06 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 7:20 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2011 at 9:30 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 1:27 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2011 at 2:05 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 2:20 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2011 at 2:26 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 2:30 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2011 at 2:34 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 2:36 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2011 at 2:40 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 4:24 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 2:36 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 25, 2011 at 4:00 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 25, 2011 at 10:12 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 2:42 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 26, 2011 at 6:30 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 25, 2011 at 11:26 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 7:51 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 10:12 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 10:54 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Gawdzilla - April 26, 2011 at 7:52 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 5:50 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 9:25 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 10:00 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 26, 2011 at 10:41 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 1:26 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 26, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 29, 2011 at 4:20 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 29, 2011 at 1:31 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 11:06 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 5:41 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 10:11 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 10:28 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 10:36 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 10:46 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 10:59 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 11:22 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 11:45 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Cinjin - April 26, 2011 at 11:51 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 11:53 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2011 at 12:17 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2011 at 12:37 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 27, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2011 at 12:59 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2011 at 5:14 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2011 at 9:11 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2011 at 9:34 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 30, 2011 at 1:21 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 29, 2011 at 4:48 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 29, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by tackattack - April 30, 2011 at 7:24 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 30, 2011 at 7:52 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by tackattack - April 30, 2011 at 7:55 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 30, 2011 at 7:58 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Gawdzilla - April 30, 2011 at 8:24 am

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