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No such thing as a "true" Christian
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian
(April 29, 2011 at 4:20 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(April 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm)theVOID Wrote: Also, I noticed this on your link "Christians will be judged according to their works and so will non-Christians" - What bearing does that have on your insistence that one need be "baptized" to be saved?
"Christians - those who are going to heaven because Jesus has forgiven their sins - will discover that God will judge their works too! But this judgment is to evaluate the "spiritual works" we did in this life. It is not for punishment. They will go to heaven because of Jesus' forgiveness."

I'm a little confused over the issue of "works". This quote under the heading "Evidences You Are A Christian" (from the same website referenced earlier) seems to indicate that some Christians will go to hell based on their "deeds" (or lack thereof, I guess):

Quote:In Matthew 25:31-46 Jesus tells us that at the end of this age God will sit as a king and judge each one of us. He will put some of us on His right side and some on His left. Those on the right side will go to heaven and the others will go to the Lake of Fire. Then he will show us why that decision was made. Our deeds will be the proof of our true character. He will reveal how we either helped or did not help others, including the poor.

http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/marks-of-...tian1.html

Am I incorrect in assuming that "works" and "deeds" are the same thing? If all Christians automatically go to heaven regardless of their works, and all non-Christians automatically go to hell because of their non-belief and irrespective of their works, then what does this passage mean?


"If there are gaps they are in our knowledge, not in things themselves." Chapman Cohen

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No such thing as a "true" Christian - by reverendjeremiah - April 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Cinjin - April 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 21, 2011 at 5:10 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 22, 2011 at 4:53 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 21, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Rayaan - April 21, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by padraic - April 21, 2011 at 9:01 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Cinjin - April 22, 2011 at 1:33 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Rev. Rye - April 21, 2011 at 11:12 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Eleazar - April 22, 2011 at 5:08 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 22, 2011 at 12:54 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 22, 2011 at 2:36 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 22, 2011 at 10:15 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 22, 2011 at 3:46 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 23, 2011 at 1:12 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 23, 2011 at 8:16 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 24, 2011 at 2:34 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Skipper - April 23, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 23, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 24, 2011 at 12:04 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Skipper - April 26, 2011 at 8:30 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 24, 2011 at 2:16 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2011 at 2:30 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 24, 2011 at 3:22 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2011 at 3:35 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 6:17 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by downbeatplumb - April 24, 2011 at 11:44 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2011 at 6:23 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 24, 2011 at 3:41 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Sarcasm - April 22, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 24, 2011 at 3:10 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2011 at 3:19 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 23, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 23, 2011 at 7:36 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 5:59 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 23, 2011 at 8:28 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Shell B - April 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 23, 2011 at 8:52 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Shell B - April 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 24, 2011 at 11:13 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 2:45 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 25, 2011 at 7:16 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 8:44 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 23, 2011 at 9:48 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 24, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 1:27 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 24, 2011 at 1:44 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 2:56 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 24, 2011 at 7:23 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 1:00 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 24, 2011 at 6:06 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 7:20 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2011 at 9:30 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 1:27 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2011 at 2:05 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 2:20 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2011 at 2:26 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 2:30 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2011 at 2:34 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 2:36 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2011 at 2:40 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 4:24 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 2:36 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 25, 2011 at 4:00 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 25, 2011 at 10:12 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 2:42 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 26, 2011 at 6:30 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 25, 2011 at 11:26 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 7:51 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 10:12 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 10:54 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 25, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Gawdzilla - April 26, 2011 at 7:52 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 5:50 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 9:25 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 10:00 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 26, 2011 at 10:41 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 1:26 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Anomalocaris - April 26, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 29, 2011 at 4:20 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Strongbad - April 29, 2011 at 1:31 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 11:06 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 5:41 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 10:11 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 10:28 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 10:36 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by theVOID - April 26, 2011 at 10:46 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 26, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 10:59 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 11:22 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2011 at 11:45 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Cinjin - April 26, 2011 at 11:51 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 26, 2011 at 11:53 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2011 at 12:17 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2011 at 12:37 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Watson - April 27, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2011 at 12:59 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2011 at 5:14 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2011 at 9:11 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2011 at 9:34 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Godschild - April 30, 2011 at 1:21 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 29, 2011 at 4:48 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by fr0d0 - April 29, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by tackattack - April 30, 2011 at 7:24 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 30, 2011 at 7:52 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by tackattack - April 30, 2011 at 7:55 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Zen Badger - April 30, 2011 at 7:58 am
RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian - by Gawdzilla - April 30, 2011 at 8:24 am

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