RE: My name is Ted
April 5, 2009 at 2:24 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2009 at 2:36 pm by bozo.)
(April 5, 2009 at 12:09 pm)Tiberius Wrote: It seems to me like if you got rid of the "meg-wealthy" and the underclasses, you would simply create a new meg-wealthy and underclass within the factions that are left. The meg-wealthy would be whoever is at the top, and the underclasses would be whoever is at the bottom.
Actually I do show the same venom to the mega-rich. I know there are a lot of corrupt people at the top, but then there are a lot of people at the top who started at the bottom and worked very hard to get to where they are today. I don't see why they would have to be punished, which a socialist system would do. If they have worked hard, they deserve all the money they earn. The capitalist system allows this, and I think all we need to do is have more regulation on business to make sure they cannot become corrupted.
I think you have a very naive view of accountants. If all the accountants on Earth were to suddenly die, most business would fall apart. I'm not talking about the rich either, I'm talking about small business as well. My mother's ex-boyfriend had a small carpentry company, and he hired an accountant to do his books. Accountants are meant to help business by providing a service that is hard to most people. Your claim that garbagemen are more valuable than accountants is simply laughable. Most people can do their own garbage, they can burn it or take it to a quarry themselves if the need be. Most people cannot do an accountant's work.
I find capitalism a system based on both competition and co-operation. You can either make it on your own by providing a competing service, or you can join a company and co-operate with them to help your career. Both ways allow you to rise up the ranks, but often the second is the easier (although slower) of the two. If you have a good idea though, you can make it on your own.
Ever heard of the Levellers? ( not the band, although they are lefties ). They were early socialists who saw the evil of wealth being held by the minority, whilst the poor people starved. Their name means what it says on the can, to spread the wealth more evenly. Thus, under socialism, the mega-rich would disappear, as would the starving. The mass of people would enjoy the same standard of living, guaranteeing the necessities of life to all.
Don't make me laugh with your examples of the " local boy made good ". Do you not acept that millions of people work very hard all their lives for a modest income whilst making the boss rich? And what about inherited wealth? What about the idle rich? What about the royal family?
I am not naieve about accountants at all, just scathing about their worth to humanity. They exist to help other capitalists avoid paying their dues. A doctor, nurse, dentist,garbageman,joiner,plumber is more valuable to me.
And talking of naievity, you put your faith in regulation of business? You gotta be joking!
Your last para says it all really. You are aspirational and see capitalism as being able to satisfy that. So be it, socialism is not for you. The rat-race is, it seems.
(April 3, 2009 at 3:50 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Jesus was a socialist. It's a good start!
Welcome aboard!
Remind me about this please. His socialist credentials?
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
