(July 7, 2016 at 5:19 pm)wallym Wrote:(July 7, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Drich Wrote: Were slaves in the 17th century Americas free to peruse their own wills? No. Does this mean they never were given choice?No again, as they were indeed given to limited choice/freedom.
Remember the bible never said we have 'free will' that is a 2000+ year old Greek philosophy that has been adopted by the christian religion in the last few hundred years. So in truth none of the rules of 'free will' apply to biblical Christianity (Christianity described by the bible.) The bible only ever identifies us as slaves. Meaning our will is anything but free, but like slaves we have been given over to make a few choices for ourselves.
The ablity to 'choose salvation' is one of them if God puts in a position to be called...
A choice is a choice. You say God gives us the ability to choose in this situation, but if they were able to show nobody is every choosing anything, it still screws up your religion.
Again Slaves were given limited choice from time to time. So does that mean they had free will?
A choice or several choices from time to time is not the same as free will.
