RE: 4 Officers Shot Dead By Snipers, 7 Wounded in Dallas Protest Against Police Violence
July 13, 2016 at 4:21 am
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2016 at 4:33 am by paulpablo.)
(July 12, 2016 at 9:36 pm)MyGLeonTrotsky Wrote: If you join yourself to any organization, faith, affiliation or otherwise, you have to be held responsible for the consequences of being a part of that organization or affiliation.
I think it's two different things to say "They had it coming to them." And "They have to be held responsible for the consequences of being part of that group."
I agree that because the police do serve as the violent force that's used to try and uphold laws and because of this they expect to have acts of violence done to them. That's the consequence they have to deal with and they do, I'm sure most of them do know that when they go out to do their job they fear those consequences
But in this specific case of consequences I wouldn't put it in the way that they had it coming to them, but then my opinion probably on this probably won't matter to most people because my opinion of the blacklivesmatter organization is different to most people in this forum.
But let's just put it another way....
If you had a bunch of blacklivesmatter protesters who were peacefully protesting then in some sort of cross fire incident they were killed by the police who were firing on violent protesters who were firing gun shots at the police, if your philosophy of being responsible for your affiliations is true and universally applied then surely being affiliated with blacklivesmatter means you believe these people had it coming to them because they have to deal with the consequences of being affiliated with the more violent members of this movement.
You mentioned faith also, so when innocent Muslims are gunned down because people think they're terrorists if your philosophy which you applied to the police is universally applicable and true then you also believe that innocent Muslims have it coming to them if they're gunned down, lets say the person didn't think they were terrorists, he just gunned them down because Muslims are sometimes terrorists and he wanted to gun down these other non terrorist Muslims in anger.
Affiliation is a word that can be used pretty vaguely too, do you think the American civilians in the twin towers had it coming to them during the 9 11 terrorist attacks because the twin towers and the occupants are affiliated with America, who has an army, who interfered in the middle east.
I'm not even really sure what you mean when you say they had it coming to them, if you mean something like you think they deserved it, or it was bound to happen. I'm just expanding your premise to different circumstances to see if you still think these other people would have it coming to them to be killed for being affiliated with or part of a group.
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