RE: 4 Officers Shot Dead By Snipers, 7 Wounded in Dallas Protest Against Police Violence
July 13, 2016 at 10:10 am
(July 13, 2016 at 6:13 am)Godschild Wrote: I think the best thing to do when one is pulled over is to have your drivers license, vehicle registration and proof of insurance card already out to hand to the officer before he/she gets to your vehicle, this will always show compliance with the law and the officer and it will keep the situation calm. Everyone knows the officer is going to ask for them so why not have them within easy reach, sunvisor would be a good place to keep both the vehicle registration and proof of insurance card. We all can do our part to help make a situation a calm situation.
Gc
No, sorry, blacks have ended up dead, after being restrained AND ended up dead even when unarmed. I can show you video of a cop shooting an unarmed black guy in the FUCKING BACK. I can also show you video of cops confronting a white guy with a gun without killing him.
No, whites and blacks ARE NOT treated the same by police. Having a gun aimed at me by a cop for having a toy gun, and another time having thrown a wallet at a cop, and living both times, I know I am treated differently. In the first place I complied, in the second case I did not, but in both cases I survived.
Police need better training, they instead have a default position of being taught fear and battlefield training. But that is only one problem. You cannot rightfully say that you want police to be safe, and send them into the urban or suburban or rural areas, because GUN VIOLENCE isn't simply city, you cant rightfully say you want them safe, then constantly have them face an armed public, then sell more guns to the public because you are afraid of government tyranny. It is simply fucking teaching both to be paranoid. And that paranoia is great for gun sales.
Our gun obsession is the biggest problem, or flooded market does not help. But beyond that our economy sucks, and we don't invest enough in poor communities, or wages for all urban, suburban and rural middle class and poor. We don't do enough to invest in enough police, which constantly has them limited to one on one or two at best situations, we don't train the them in distance deescalation conflict resolution, we far too often train them to dominate and shoot first.
And again, I still have never gotten a good answer as to how many guns would be enough, we already have more guns than citizens. When do we stop 1 billion guns? 5 billion guns?
Nobody wants a nanny state and this is not about a gun grab, or about taking every single firearm of all types away. If we have to ban an individual type certainly the person who has that particular type should be paid for it, and if legal they certainly wouldn't be banned from owning other types. If you want a shotgun, or low power limited clip single shot riffle, for hunting or home protection, or a six or 8 capacity handgun, fine. But when you consider buying one, I think it is absurd going in being blind to the stats, just like abstinence only approach to sex education creates more problems. "Legal at time of buy" is the same type of blind ignorance and lack of pragmatism. It isn't enough to merely think you are good, and have good intent, or think you are a good shot. You are more likely to fuck yourself with one in the home than to protect yourself from a stranger or active shooter. Not enough potential buyers want to face those odds. Just like saying abstinence only sex education does not work, isn't calling for a ban on heterosexual marriage.
