(July 17, 2016 at 2:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(July 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm)paulpablo Wrote: It was a specific person I was asking about, the man who was beaten to death by police. I'm not asking where it was I'm saying I don't think he was privileged by any definition of privilege relating to any sort of description.Which is where it all went south, frankly...since you aren;t addressing the subject as it is, you're trying to slice and dice to find a single, specific, favorable example. You still failed.
Quote:I'm asking you in what way was he advantaged because of his race and your reply is that because after he was beaten to death he enjoyed the privilege of the officers being charged before they were aquitted which I replied that it doesn't just happen to white people that way because it also happened to Freddie Grey.Will you know argue that here, in the US, a white person and a black person can -expect- the same treatment in that regard..or that black people are afforded this dignity at the same rate as whites? Because if you aren't..this objection is DOA.
Quote:White privilege by it's definition is something that defines all white people as being privileged by default, this is what you said previously. That's what I mean by tarring all white people.Except that it is accurate, it is quantifiable, and it has been demonstrated. All things being equal..it's better to be white...all things are not equal...and it's -still- better to be white.
Which relates back to white people who live in poverty who are killed by police or killed by black people or just live unfortunate lives in general. I don't think it's accurate to say their lives are still better for being white.
All things not being equal it's still better to be white? It's obvious innaccurate statements like this which is why I'm arguing the extent of white privilege. And I have a feeling when I do you will just accuse me of critisizing the way you're phrasing things.
So a white person who's in prison is more privileged than 50 cent the multi millionaire musician? Which person do you think has the advantage of being able to walk outside of a prison and have sex with women and buy planes and cars?
Even if things are equal it's better to be white in a white majority country that America is yes. That's controlling for all other factors. This kind of privilege isn't something I'd argue about the statistics of but I'd argue it's not universally true in cases of white people in non white majority neighborhoods, it's no longer necesserily a privilege to be white.
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