(July 17, 2016 at 10:21 am)paulpablo Wrote:(July 17, 2016 at 10:12 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Efficient police states are often able to reduce the level of terrorism in the area it controls. It does so by imposing other forms of genuine terror on major parts of the civil society that for historic reasons are not called terrorism.
I think that's jumping from one extreme to the other.
I don't think a police state needs to be enforced in order to prevent immigrants convicted of violent crimes including wife beating living in France and convicted terrorists living in the capital city of France.
I don't think the people of citizens of France would mind if there was a law deporting convicted violent immigrants and I don't think it would require a police state. The same goes for exiling convicted terrorists or some other kind of punishment.
If terrorism gets redefined to mean something less extreme and people are exiled for this reason then yes that could result in a police state, but these terrorists were convicted of breaking people out of jail, trying to go fight in Syria and were known to intelligence services.
They weren't just saying bad things about Jews, or acting a bit suspicious.
The trouble with that, of course, is that breaking people out of jail and trying to go fight in Syria are not terrorist acts, per se.
Boru
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