(May 3, 2011 at 3:42 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:(May 3, 2011 at 3:23 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: My only thought is on your second point. It's still possible that killing Jesus off could possibly change the outcome of christianity. If you managed to kill him before he was able to travel abroad and spread his disease than the masses would have never heard his name and thus would not be able to write the stories and the scrolls and what have you.
Hmmm, good point. I suppose if I went back and killed David Koresh before he gathered his followers then his followers would not still be worshipping him. Lets also be honest that his followers WANTED to believe in something far fetched. Because of this, there surely would have been a power vaccuum and they would have went to some type of other extreme belief.
I would say that we could set Jesus down and educate him on the real world, so that he could spread good knowledge, but would that change anything? Or would that make him less attractive. I think that "vaccuum" (for lack of a better word) would demand something in place of rational discussion in this situation.
(May 3, 2011 at 3:42 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: If you are right, and what you say can happen, then I would predict that Zoroastrianism would have made greater strides than it had in our current time line. Then again, it is very difficult to predict anything on this discussion as it is so specialized and lacking in good markers of reality to find a good answer.
Most any hypothetical envolving time travel is going to be inherently lacking in reality due to the nature of paradoxes. Also predicting anything in any context is often very difficult to do. Admittedly, this thread is likely an exercise if futility, but it the meantime, it gives me something far more interesting to discuss. (personal opinion of course) This idea you have of sitting Jesus down and talking to him about the future of the world is very interesting to me. Perhaps he really believed himself to be the son of god and that no matter what you said he would not have listened. Maybe you could use god agaisnt him and say that you were sent by god to warn people like him not to make outragious claims in his name. I wonder what argument Jesus would be most likely to believe and which one would be most likely to help the world overall.
?? curious ??
(May 3, 2011 at 3:42 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: My prediction would be some other mystery religion would have gained popularity instead, which I would bet Zoroastrianism would have a good chance. Regardless, Christianity as we know it would be destroyed in that situation, but only if you killed Jesus before he became popular, which would mean you would have to kill him in the cradle, if the story of the wise men is actual history..that is.