Bringing Down the King

[Cinjin]

If Jesus existed and he is exactly how they describe him in that book of contradictions, then you could not kill him or change anything.

*Tangent Alert*
You just made me think of another problem I had the first time I read the Gospels cover-to-cover.

Herod tries to kill baby Jesus but an angel warns the family to flee to Egypt.

Matthew 2:13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

So why flee? Go ahead, run your sword through him a bunch of times for all the difference it will make. This is freaking God Incarnate here, right? And then what will his soldiers do when Heaven counter-strikes with a team of angels?

I later learned that the author of Matthew was probably an Ebionite, an early sect of Christianity that used a version of his scripture in which Jesus was a mortal man possessed by the spirit of God at the baptism. Thus, Jesus would have been vulnerable prior to his baptism. It also explains neatly why there's no ministry prior to age 30. If Jesus was God, what the hell was he doing all that time? But if Jesus was a mortal, his story just wasn't interesting enough to merit being part of scripture.

This would also explain why Jesus' last words according to Matthew were "My God, why have you forsaken me?" According to the Ebionites, the spirit of God couldn't die so it departed from Jesus while he was on the cross. Jesus' last words according to Matthew make much more sense in this light. From the Trinitarian perspective it sounds like Jesus is saying "Me, me, why have I forsaken me?"

This needs to be a video topic...

Then even according to the Ebionite christians, Jesus wasn't really the "son of god" - he was the intended physical host of god. Which would mean that up until his baptism he was a flawed man who more than likely committed sins?

Sounds like someone who could easily be physically killed. Which leads one to wonder if there were other intended "hosts" who didn't quite make it or possibly weren't near as charasmatic or just didn't have the egotistical commitment to claiming almighty power.

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No. Because the very fact that he travelled back in time was always going to happen and is part of history and history tells us that he did not succeed.

A very valid answer. Paradoxes always prevent changing the past.