(July 21, 2016 at 2:15 am)Minimalist Wrote: Sanders was not a democrat at all. He was, and remains, an Independent. How many points do you think that gained him with the democratic party and people who have been busting their balls for it for 30 years?
Really Min? Even when your horse has won, you still can't resist bashing the candidate who, quite frankly, most of us would have pinned as your choice given how often you express very liberal opinions here.
Of course, your description of Sanders is, as it was before, completely inaccurate. Sanders is a democrat; he's said as much, and he's also stated that he would campaign as a democrat in future elections. More importantly though, in most Vermont elections since 1994, the Democratic party endorsed him and didn't put forward their own candidate. In return, Sanders has caucused with the Democratic party in Congress.
Certainly, given the number of victories he had during the primaries and caucuses, it seems that a large number of Democrats think he's a suitable candidate. If he'd only won a small minority of the vote, I think you'd have a point, but he won 43.1% of it. That's not an insignificant number.
Quote:Not to mention that Sanders' promises were no more realistic than Drumpf's. He had no way to pay for them and would never have gotten them through congress.
For the umpteenth time, we elect a president. Not a king.
Sanders released information on how he would pay for all of his plans, actually. Just because you don't think Congress would pass the measures doesn't mean he had no way to pay for them. That's not how that works at all.
Besides, as I've said before, is that really the President we want? One who puts forward a manifesto based on the likelihood of stuff getting passed, rather than on what the American people actually deserve? No thanks. I'd rather have a President who believes the American people deserve better, and will fight to make their lives better, even if they fail. There's no shame in that.
Obama campaigned on "Hope" and "Change", and a lot of people said the exact same things about him that you are saying about Sanders. They didn't think Healthcare reform would pass, but it did, and it survived numerous lawsuits and legal challenges after that.
I hate to break it to you, but a lot of Sanders' promises got included in the Democratic platform, so it seems perhaps some of the party believe slightly differently to you.
