RE: Zimmerman deserved to get punched, time to move on with our lives.
August 7, 2016 at 5:20 pm
(August 5, 2016 at 2:09 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:(August 5, 2016 at 1:59 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I didn't forget that, because it's categorically not true. The transcript from the phone call was published, as was the audio. The dispatcher (who by the way, wasn't a police officer) said words to the effect of "we don't need you to do that". That's not an order or even a command, it's more of a suggestion, if that. Zimmerman was perfectly within his rights to be there, and as a neighborhood watchman, to approach and challenge Treyvon Martin.
Wrong again. It's funny how Treyvon Martin's defenders have such bad memories, or at least try to distort the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_o...s_accounts
Bolding mine.
Look, it's terrible that Treyvon Martin wound up dead, but at the same time, the evidence pointed towards Treyvon Martin attacking Zimmerman, and Zimmerman firing his gun in self defence. The injuries that Zimmerman sustained in the attack are well documented.
Yeah, I don't have a terrible memory, I literally read that right before I posted.
What he is seeing there is the middle of a confrontation, not the start of it. So it's totally meaningless as to who started that confrontation. We have nothing but Zimmerman's word on it. We do have some circumstantial evidence though. I think it's a pretty hard sell to say that Martin, who was just walking home, wanted to start a fight that night. Zimmerman on the other hand was unduly following him, thought he was suspicious, has a history of being paranoid That's who I put my money on for starting that fight.
So exactly like I said, the only witness to the start of the confrontation is Zimmerman. There is no good reason to believe Martin started that fight. Why would he? What makes the most sense to me is that Zimmerman started a fight, was losing and shot him.
Seen any bad youtube videos lately of fights that go wrong?
Once Trayvon Martin got the upperhand in the fight, and it is very possible that Martin got in a lucky punch that dropped Zimmerman, there was no way Martin was going to lose. In fact, if you have seen many youtube videos of fights (not pre-arranged ones) outside nightclubs, on the streets, you can guarantee that the Adrenalin was pumping through Martins veins at that moment when he was continuously punching Zimmerman. I have seen where someone will assume the position where the person with his back on the ground can do absolutely nothing (unless he is an expert in MMA) and then continue to punch until the person is lying unconscious. Further to that, knowing the neighbourhood scene, and having viewed youtube videos, they will almost always get up and swing a couple of kicks to the head and no doubt a couple of stamps on the cranium for good measure, meaning it would have been very possible for Zimmerman to end up as a vegetable for the rest of his life.
People have never forgotten their instincts to kill or maim. I think Zimmerman was in fear for his life and he only had two choices; take the beating and hopefully come out with a few bruises or perhaps worse, in a coma or even dead, or another option and that was to shoot in self-defence.