(August 24, 2016 at 8:51 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: I thought I had explained quite clearly what aspects of deism theism and pantheism I do a scribe to. They very easily go well one with the other.
No, what you actually did was redefine deistic and pantheistic beliefs so that they agree with the generalised theistic belief that god(s) take an active role in the world and intentionally intervene in the lives of people. Neither deists nor pantheists believe that. Deists believe in a god which is separate to the universe, created it but left it to its own devices after the moment of creation. Pantheists believe the universe and all it contains is god, saying not that there is separate conscious god, but that god is everything and everything is part of god. As you can see both those positions are fundamentally incompatible with theism, and anybody who can say that he believes in all three is either talking out of his arse or hasn't the first clue on theology.
Quote:As far as to ascribe to the belief that God is equivalent in character to a five-year-old human child; frankly you'll have to be more specific, I have yet to go into any specific doctrines or the characteristics of God so how can you assume that what I claim to be God or what I know is in any way equivalent to a child?
Have you ever read any of the mythologies, the Graeco-Roman, the Germanic, the Celtic, the Abrahamic, the Brahamanic? I've read a lot of the mythology surrounding the various religions in Europe and Asia, and the descriptor "spoiled brat" is pretty much applicable to a greater or lesser degree to all the gods described, even the ones generally portrayed as good or kind. There's this boundless need to be worshiped (which anybody around a young child would immediately recognise as naked attention seeking), the capricious use of their powers without thought or regard for others (have you ever seen toddlers get angry when they see another child go for a toy they weren't playing with?), the need to be always right, and the anger displayed when shown to be wrong (another trait of young children that you can see every day). I have not yet come across a description of a god where you cannot adequately and honestly apply the decriptor as a being who has been given a power they know how to use but lack the emotional or intellectual maturity to be able to control when they should and should not use it.
Quote:Lastly, I didn't say anything about a dual natured GOD. There are two distinct directions or forces yet only one of these is of GOD in nature.
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I never said anything about a dual natured god either. What I said is that the gods described are too human, too small to be considered believable. They are a reflection of our worst traits, what man in his worst nightmares imagined that it was possible for him to do given the power and with the requisite lack of morality.
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