Why Do I hate creationists (theists in general)

[Pat Mustard]

Deism & Pantheism and Theism are two groupings of ideas which have a fundamentally incompatible idea of what a god is. Neither deists nor pantheists believe in intentionally active gods while theists do. You can't really try to say I'm one or the other, because you ascribe to your idea of god two natures which cannit coexist.

Oh, and from your beliefs cited you are a theist. Answer me this though why do you ascribe to go the natur of a five year old spoiled brat? That's why I cannot accept any of the gods believed in, they are too human, too petty and too limited to be anything other than our imagination.

Have you looked up Panentheism?

Panentheism (meaning "all-in-God", from the Ancient Greek πᾶν pân, "all", ἐν en, "in" and Θεός Theós, "God") is the belief that the divine interpenetrates every part of the universe and extends, timelessly (and, presumably, spacelessly) beyond it. Unlike pantheism, which holds that the divine and the universe are identical,[1] panentheism maintains a distinction between the divine and non-divine and the significance of both.[2]

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I never said anything about a dual natured god either. What I said is that the gods described are too human, too small to be considered believable. They are a reflection of our worst traits, what man in his worst nightmares imagined that it was possible for him to do given the power and with the requisite lack of morality.

Have you tried working with an extant infinite substance? A quark-gluon singularity with no external border?

Too many are trying to think of God's personality, which is almost guaranteed to be an ego projection...too few think of the substance of God.

Have you read any Spinozan ethics? If you have you'd understand that I'm pretty much on the money regarding pantheism. Well it's a lot more complex than that as a system of ethics, but the idea of god is essentially as I state it. In pantheism the universe is god and all in the universe are part of god. It does not exist as a separate being and is not conscious in and of itself.

The reason why I speak of god's ego rather than his substance is because it's all we have to go on. The writers of the world's holy books only gave us personality, no substance to be found because, like the Scarlet Pimpernel, wherever you looked he wasn't there. Oh yes, we got a lot of natural processes which were previously ascribed to gods, but guess what, as natural processes we now know no gods were ever involved (unless you're going to try and raise your idiotic notion that processes worked differently than they do now before we discovered their workings).