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Ban the Burkini
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RE: Ban the Burkini
I think it's silly, purely on the basis that it's no different (in terms of what it covers) to a scuba-diving costume.
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It's just the meaning behind it people don't like.

I support niqab and burka bans in public, face coverings. Western culture is a culture that values showing your face and being identifiable. We would look at a group of non-religious young people with suspicious glances if they were walking down the street with hankerchiefs tied around their faces, call it "religious" and suddenly we respect it.

When it comes to the hijab (hair covered but not face) I don't respect a ban. In terms of what it covers, it's no different to me wearing a hood or a hat. I can also buy the idea that there actually are many women who genuinely do choose to wear it, looking at the growing "hijab fashion" movement that's appearing among younger Muslim women.

I think people get too lost in the trivial shit, which is a point Ayaan Hirsi Ali made once that I thought was good. Rather than getting lost in banning "Islamic symbols" thinking that it's a solution to Islamism, we should be focusing more on combating the overall Islamist movement head-on by closing Sharia Courts and religious faith schools (all religions, not just Muslim ones), and promoting counter-narratives for European Muslims.
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- Maryam Namazie

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Ban the Burkini - by ukatheist - August 16, 2016 at 10:31 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Whateverist - August 16, 2016 at 10:41 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by brewer - August 16, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by downbeatplumb - August 16, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by rado84 - August 16, 2016 at 11:19 am
Ban the Burkini - by ukatheist - August 16, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by FatAndFaithless - August 16, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - August 16, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by CapnAwesome - August 16, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - August 16, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Pat Mustard - August 16, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by ukatheist - August 16, 2016 at 1:06 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - August 16, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Jesster - August 16, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - August 16, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 6, 2016 at 2:30 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Regina - August 25, 2016 at 3:22 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - August 25, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Regina - August 25, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - August 25, 2016 at 8:59 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 6, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - August 25, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by KevinM1 - August 25, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by CapnAwesome - September 4, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mermaid - September 4, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by CapnAwesome - September 4, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mermaid - September 4, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - September 4, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Jesster - August 25, 2016 at 8:29 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2016 at 1:34 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by FatAndFaithless - September 6, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - August 25, 2016 at 9:21 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - August 25, 2016 at 9:39 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Jesster - August 26, 2016 at 12:12 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 4, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - September 4, 2016 at 4:25 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 4, 2016 at 4:32 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - August 25, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 6, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by ScienceAf - August 25, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - August 26, 2016 at 12:14 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by ScienceAf - August 26, 2016 at 12:19 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 6, 2016 at 2:39 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Minimalist - August 26, 2016 at 12:02 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 6, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mermaid - September 4, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Tiberius - September 4, 2016 at 10:33 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by deleteduser12345 - September 4, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mermaid - September 4, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 10:45 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Pat Mustard - September 5, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by deleteduser12345 - September 5, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mermaid - September 5, 2016 at 11:00 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by deleteduser12345 - September 4, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mermaid - September 4, 2016 at 10:44 am
Ban the Burkini - by LadyForCamus - September 4, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:01 am
Ban the Burkini - by LadyForCamus - September 4, 2016 at 11:05 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:08 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 6, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Regina - September 4, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by CapnAwesome - September 4, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Regina - September 4, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by CapnAwesome - September 4, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 6, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - September 4, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 4:38 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 4, 2016 at 4:33 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Seraphina - September 4, 2016 at 4:38 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2016 at 5:00 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by bennyboy - September 4, 2016 at 9:41 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 4, 2016 at 10:29 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Tiberius - September 6, 2016 at 11:16 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by deleteduser12345 - September 6, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 6, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Tiberius - September 6, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 6, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by paulpablo - September 6, 2016 at 2:50 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 11, 2016 at 8:18 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 11, 2016 at 8:58 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 11, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 12, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 12, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 12, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 12, 2016 at 4:12 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 12, 2016 at 4:59 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 11, 2016 at 11:56 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 11, 2016 at 1:56 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by abaris - September 11, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 11, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 11, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 11, 2016 at 2:38 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 12, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 12, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 12, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 12, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 12, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 12, 2016 at 10:49 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 12, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 12, 2016 at 11:05 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 12, 2016 at 11:13 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 12, 2016 at 11:36 pm
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2016 at 12:42 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by Mister Agenda - September 13, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Ban the Burkini - by RobertE - September 13, 2016 at 12:18 pm

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