(August 25, 2016 at 3:22 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I think it's silly, purely on the basis that it's no different (in terms of what it covers) to a scuba-diving costume.
It's just the meaning behind it people don't like.
I support niqab and burka bans in public, face coverings. Western culture is a culture that values showing your face and being identifiable. We would look at a group of non-religious young people with suspicious glances if they were walking down the street with hankerchiefs tied around their faces, call it "religious" and suddenly we respect it.
When it comes to the hijab (hair covered but not face) I don't respect a ban. In terms of what it covers, it's no different to me wearing a hood or a hat. I can also buy the idea that there actually are many women who genuinely do choose to wear it, looking at the growing "hijab fashion" movement that's appearing among younger Muslim women.
I think people get too lost in the trivial shit, which is a point Ayaan Hirsi Ali made once that I thought was good. Rather than getting lost in banning "Islamic symbols" thinking that it's a solution to Islamism, we should be focusing more on combating the overall Islamist movement head-on by closing Sharia Courts and religious faith schools (all religions, not just Muslim ones), and promoting counter-narratives for European Muslims.
I agree with promoting counter-narratives to European Muslims and for all religions, actually. France bans all conspicuous religious symbols in public schools including turbans, crucifixes, etc, not just Islamic symbols.
A Muslim swimsuit for a female isn't the same as a hoodie. One can be worn by choice by men or women and one gets forced on to women so they can be "modest". Make no mistake, women are forced by their religious supervisors to cover themselves head to toe and are indoctrinated to believe it is their "choice".
One has to wonder about the Muslim men who live in these beach communites - while they have their women make themselves invisible, do you think they avoid being around women on the beach who are dressed in bikinis and swimwear to preserve their righteousness? Hell no, they're big fat hypocrites!
So I say keep the burkini bans and I hope the whole of France makes it law.
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