RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
September 2, 2016 at 4:53 am
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2016 at 5:06 am by Panatheist.)
(September 1, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(September 1, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Panatheist Wrote: Don't see where I'm saying there is more to any form of awareness than a neural correlate, physical explanations, period.-and I haven't made any comment or criticism as such. Avoiding magic isn't exactly an accomplishment. It's not as if anyone could help it...there's no such thing.
Quote:Basically we are arguing over words, whether altered state is an appropriate term for my experience, but you haven't used the term consistently: that's my point in mentioning that day dreams qualify as per your definition.Unless you can at least accept that it's possible that you were daydreaming, neither of us is using daydreams as an example of the sort of altered state which you're angling for.
Quote:Call it a trippy experience rather than an altered state, whatever you prefer. My point to the OP is that one can experience all sorts of strange mental phenomena without seeking a supernatural explanation.Sure, and one can attribute it to all sorts of ridiculous shit....also without ever referring to the supernatural.
I mentioned a neural correlate for any state of awareness to the OP for their benefit because they *do* believe in the supernatural.
Day dreaming DOES FIT YOUR DEFINITION OF AN ALTERED STATE. IT OCCURS IN THE THETA STATE. Caps lock for emphasis. If it was a day dream it *doesn't help your argument.*
Dude, CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT. I have already told you before, call it something else if you like. A day dream. A reindeer. Whatever. It *doesn't change* what I'm saying to the OP: even strange perceptions have natural explanations. No "ridiculous shit" required.
What the fuck.