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What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities?
(September 2, 2016 at 4:53 am)Panatheist Wrote: I mentioned a neural correlate for any state of awareness to the OP for their benefit because they *do* believe in the supernatural.

Day dreaming DOES FIT YOUR DEFINITION OF AN ALTERED STATE.  IT OCCURS IN THE THETA STATE.  Caps lock for emphasis.  If it was a day dream it *doesn't help your argument.*
Take a deep breath.  Was it, a daydream?  

Quote:Dude, CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT.  I have already told you before, call it something else if you like.  A day dream.  A reindeer.  Whatever. It *doesn't change* what I'm saying to the OP: even strange perceptions have natural explanations.  No "ridiculous shit" required.

What the fuck.
What the fuck indeed.  Remember this all began as a way of explaining both how and why people dismiss anecdotes such as the one you offered -or some supernatural anecdote-.  It doesn't help to tell someone that their experiences can be explained by things other than the supernatural..no more so than suggesting that your experience was a daydream,...obviously.  You both end up huffing back IN ALL CAPS.  Ultimately, you're both doing the same thing.  Taking your flawed and spotty perceptions and memories and making a grand attribution.  In the same way that your experience can be explained by a daydream- which you strongly resist as an explanation...the believer strongly resists any natural explanation that could similarly explain their experience.  You both feel that you know, and deeply feel, that even if x -could be- explained by a daydream...that's just not what it was.
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RE: What philosophical evidence is there against believing in non-physical entities? - by The Grand Nudger - September 2, 2016 at 10:07 am

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