9-11, give me a break.

[abaris]

And yet that's not even wrong, if by freedom one means freedom of and from religion, the emancipation of women, freedom of speech, etc...

And yet it's a stupid and simplistic one. It prevents looking at the motifs and taking the attackers for fools instead of acknowledging the fact that they have their own kind of reasoning and most of all a strategy. What always went under and what I always pointed out when one of these simplistic arguments came up even back then was Massoud. Massoud had the highest popularity among the Afghani warlords opposing the Taliban. He was murdered, was it two or three days before 9/11. They wanted him out of the way, since they were expecting an imminent attack on Afghani soil. That's not a foolish approach. That's a strategy if there ever was one.