(September 27, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(September 27, 2016 at 11:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Gee, something new yog.
I have been looking for atheists that believe in reincarnation with no success and now you telling me that there are.
That is great yog.
Tell me who they are so I can pat them in the back.
Buddhists believe that gods exist, but Buddhism doesn't generally involve looking to gods to explain reality. They believe in karma and reincarnation, but not personally involved gods. The Jains also believe in reincarnation, but they don't believe in gods. And there are numerous people who believe in past lives who aren't affiliated with any belief in god. The simple fact is that not having a belief in an interacting god is no impediment to believing in reincarnation.
Quote:Jainism is not fatalistic, but it is atheistic. There is no world-soul, no supreme being, no creator and sustainer of the universe, no one beyond himself (except the Tirthankaras as guides and examples) to aid man in his endeavors.
http://www.jainworld.com/book/jainism/ch11.asp
Buddha had to deal with the people of his time and so Jesus and all other spiritual beings.
If they wanted to be understood they had no option but explain the truth in a way that people would
accept which may be different from what could be taught in different times where people would have a different logic to perceive and understand teachings.
It is quite possible that in those times it would have been futile to talk about God to those people.
Instead Buddha was trying to teach a system that slowly would lead these people to God anyway.
Why I know this?
Because Buddha was practicing yoga.
Pure yoga and yoga is all about reducing the distance or radius that separate us from God so it is impossible that Buddha wouldn't believe in God and impossible that he wouldn't know that his teachings sooner or later would lead people to get to God.
Jainism is a strange belief that twist simple things in difficult one.
Take this statement......Jainism does not believe in God as a creator, survivor, and destroyer of the universe. However Jainism does believe in God, not as a creator, but as a perfect being. When a person destroys all his karmas, he becomes a liberated soul. He resides in a perfect blissful state in Moksha....
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid...ism%20gods
In other words God is still there but you have to go around and around to get it.
Not worth it.
