Skipper Wrote:Thats completely irrelevant...Up until now I have also only had sexual relationships with people my age or older, if I was suddenly to start fucking 9 year olds you would rightly label me a pedophile, but obviously we're talking about the prophet so you'll make excuses until you're blue in the face.
I would wonder if you are a rapist. Pedophilia is nothing bad (at all)... acting upon it when it is unwanted is.
Skipper Wrote:But surely it is also irrelevant if it happened hundreds of years ago, he was the prophet he lived his life supposedly according to the word of god. You and other religions tell us that Atheism can't provide a good moral code, yet the moral code your book provides is clearly subjective to the time and place (and therefore useless(or at the very least no different to my moral codes)) if pedophilia (or marrying and fucking nine year olds (as if there is a difference)) was ok then for him then why isn't it ok now for me? or you? Or anyone else?
A good moral code is not necessarily an objective moral code. If the moral code varies at all, then yes it is different from your moral code. Morality of actions depends strongly upon the actor.
Quote:If we say human morals come from humans (society) then they will change as we change and I'll agree that if he was fucking a nine year old back then, it could have been because it was seen as ok during the time and place he was living. If however we say morals truely do come from scripture (the word of god) then I don't see how fucking a nine year old in the desert a thousand years ago is any different to fucking a nine year old now in a western city. But it obviously is.
It's not a question of time, as those in arab cultures still do this. It is a question of what environment you are raised/live in.
The important thing to recognize about scripture, is that like every other word: it requires an interpreter to mean anything. As language affects the way we think, it is not such a long shot to suggest that a book entirely moral to arabs is morally abhorant to amaricans and the godamn british.

Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day