Cinjin Wrote:Legal pornography is between adults. Apples and oranges there.
Because legality obviously isn't firmly rooted within what is culturally acceptable, and adult cows are obviously a majority of the pornography generated?
Quote:We're not forcing our culture on someone else at all. We are attempting to make Rayaan see the error in his own religion. You see, regardless of a culture's right to do things their own way - a line still has to be drawn. You can't commit crimes against humanity and than turn around and say, "hey that's our culture, that's just the way we do things." That's a cop out, and a poor one at that. Their religion states that they can cut off people's hands and kill people by means of stoning for offenses that don't come close to warranting that. I don't support those actions either, and I lump sex with a child in with these cultural morals you say we should be ignoring.
You imply that I'm an arrogant SOB who is trying to force my culture on someone else. That is not accurate at all, but that's fine with me. If I'm going to make an error regarding intolerance - I'm going to error on the side of basic human decency.
Several american wars tell me otherwise... and this is no different. You perceive this as an error because you see it differently. Morals are not like math... they are not consistent, and they are not constant, and they need not be logical. It turns out that their culture dominates their laws, and so that is infact the way they do things. Our culture dominates our laws, and so such things are not legal here. You call it a 'cop out'... pretending that your american stance is anything greater than their stance, because it is yours, of course.
You don't think the offenses warrant death and the severing of a limb... but they obviously do. In your country, you go ahead and ignore their cultural morals... your laws are the result of your own after all. In their country, their laws rules, and their laws are the result of their culture.
You might be an arrogant SOB... I know I am
But you are forcing your culture upon this issue, whether you are trying to or not. This 'basic human decency' is an illusion held by those that do not perceive the depths of depravity as a normal and probably common state. Godamn hippies 
Quote:Any book ... I don't care if it's 2000 years old or written in the year 2000. If it considers a 50 year old man having sex with a NINE YEAR OLD as a beautiful thing that should be honored and remembered - than it's worthy of condemnation .... cultural or not!
Entirely cultural, infact. Worthy of your condemnation, worthy of someone else's respect, worthy of my amusement.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
